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Diesel Veggie Cars (and or van/truck)
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December 19, 2011 - 2:47 pm
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ok so im looking into getting a diesel for better gas mileage. i have been looking into the wvo capable vehicles.

so im wondering, is it better to get a car already done up and running for a bit? (of course it be ideal right) or do i go with the do it your self kit? that way i know what the system’s full set up consists of and can better tailor it to my situations?

i have been reading and reading and talking to people in passing but would love to know from a paddler.

anyone out there have some time with one of these cars under your bum?????………..any info would be greatly appreciated

i know where to get the filtered fuel and have a connection for tons of unfiltered, if i wanted to do it my self.

is filtering and making usable wvo out of unfiltered wvo a huge pain or is it manageable?

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December 21, 2011 - 2:13 pm
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There’s a book called Greasy Rider…I have it but haven’t read it yet..AW mag had an article about a road trip in a grease burner a while back, might offer some insight. You should grab a VW Jetta diesel wagon, great milage and very dependable.
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December 21, 2011 - 6:42 pm
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Klaus Renner has been driving a Benz running surplus "grease" for years. He did his own conversion. I’ve PM’d you his email address.

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December 21, 2011 - 7:54 pm
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thanks bob i checked my email but nothing was in the inbox wemustriseabove@aol.com is my address

im not sure if thats the one you had or not lemme know and thanks abunch for the help

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December 21, 2011 - 10:42 pm
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Instead of converting a vehicle to run on waste veggie oil, I would recommend converting the oil into actual biodiesel. This is much easier on the fuel system, and you can actually run your car 100% on bio. With WVO, the car needs to be started and warmed up on diesel.

I have had a couple old diesel Jettas in the past, and loved the mileage! One suffered a leaky injection pump from ULSD, and the other had gummed up…everything from being a former WVO car. I think biodiesel is a great compromise.

I have a buddy that makes it at home, and from what I can tell, the process just removes the glycerine from the fuel, and leaves behind all the delicious hydrocarbons!

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i have a pretty good source of grease during the summer months and was hoping to use it. will i still be able to put it to use when making my own bio diesel?

ill be driving great distances often and am trying to get the best bang for my buck here. i have allot of boating to be done and a few weddings that involve me driving a ways (1200 miles each way) im looking a few vehicle options and possibilities ultimately id like to go for a diesel van or something i can camp with down in WV this summer but even if it were a jetta or a mercedes id be fine with that too idunno please let me know what you think im kinda lost in the matter and want this to work as well as i keep hearing these go

worse comes to worse its back to air cooled vw’s

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December 22, 2011 - 5:45 am
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Watch out for bears!

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December 22, 2011 - 8:19 am
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I sent a second e-mail, but his contact info is also posted here:
http://aca.whitewater-slalom.us/a-farm-r.htm

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December 22, 2011 - 9:43 am
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got it thanks bob

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December 22, 2011 - 12:12 pm
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Yo Joey i know a good deal about the WVO scene and making biodiesel. While biodiesel is a better choice for the longevity of your engine (it is cleaner burning) it is not cake to make well. Poorly made biodiesel can still have negative side effects for your ride.

Making biodiesel is a chemical process and most commonly uses sodium hydroxide (or lye) as its catalyst. This shtuff is pretty nasty, remember the scene in fight club where brad pitt burns the other dudes hand… Making biodiesel is fun, but is an investment.

Running WVO is more straightforward in that after you install the kit all you do is pour filtered WVO into your 2nd tank. Start your vehicle on diesel, let it warm up, switch to WVO. BEFORE you shut off the engine switch back to diesel and let it run through for a few minutes to clean out the system. The issue with this is that impurities in WVO tend to "gum up the system." This is most common in injectors and leaving residue in the cylinders. Not the best thing for an engine.

Older diesel’s, specifically MB’s work best with WVO. They are better at burning the impurities. When i was down in Chile a few years ago i hitched a ride with a buddy who had driven his 1987 VW Rabbit from British Columbia down to Patagonia on grease. He had his issues but is still going strong and on his way back up. The newer more fancy tuned engines are more picky. All diesels should be fine with biodiesel.

I have some books on making biodiesel as well as countless web links if you want more resources.

As far as WVO goes i would install a system yourself. Then when it gets funky you can fix it. There will also be noone to blame but yourself for any potential mistakes <img src=” class=”spSmiley” /> .

THis is the system i have seen in most cars but there are tons available:
http://www.greasecar.com

If you need VW resources around boston i have owned 2 diesel jettas, and my father has owned another 3. Good Luck Buddy!

I know this is probably "top" secret but where are you getting oil from? Generally the less use the oil sees the better. Oil that is used in processes with little fat is also good, it keeps the impurities out of the oil. So look for oil from fish friers and donut shops. McDonalds less so. Canola and olive oil are said to be the best.

best o luck buddy

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December 23, 2011 - 8:02 am
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Nice site
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December 23, 2011 - 10:20 am
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I just got a diesel Jetta Sportwagen to replace my minivan. The mileage is awesome.

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December 27, 2011 - 8:18 pm
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still looking around learning more and more about these puppies…….doesnt mean its been any easier making a choice lol

either way, i think the plugs of choice will be glow over spark (im deff going diesel) just not to sure how far into the bio/grease im going to dive. i know it like anything else and would get into a routine eventually. im just not sure i have the means of it at this moment.

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I just finished the book "Greasy Rider" about a couple guys converting a Benz to used fry oil and driving it cross country…I wouldn’t do it, carbon build up is a problem. Stick with straight diesel. I’ve owned 2 diesel vehicles, a Chevette and a Chevy van.Glow plugs rule!!!
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